[01:10] kugg (~jerkeby@129.215.255.139) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:42] h01ger (~holger@socket.layer-acht.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [02:43] h01ger (~holger@socket.layer-acht.org) joined #fai. [08:56] MT (~MT@M276P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #fai. [08:57] Nick change: MT -> Guest202 [09:46] woffs (~woffs@osiris.taz.de) joined #fai. [09:55] Guest202 (~MT@M276P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Quit: Guest202 [10:05] MT (~MT@M276P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #fai. [10:06] Nick change: MT -> Guest206 [10:35] Nick change: Guest206 -> MT [11:19] can someone explain to me, what 'disk_config end' is supposed to be good for ? [11:20] also on http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Howtos there's a dead link to a patched version of setup_harddisks [11:20] any idea where that version is located now ? [11:27] MT (~MT@M276P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:47] MT (~MT@M469P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #fai. [14:47] Nick change: MT -> Guest220 [14:49] Nick change: Guest220 -> MT [15:10] MT (~MT@M469P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Quit: MT [16:10] sysop (sysop@200.77.31.95) joined #fai. [16:12] MT (~MT@M469P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #fai. [16:12] Nick change: MT -> Guest225 [16:24] can be a distro or live cd with specific for fai? [16:32] sysop: look at fai-cd. [16:32] i use it to make distros of my FAI, and have a live-cd on the same cd. [16:36] thanks [16:36] for script config files... what language you use? [16:38] Guest225 (~MT@M469P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Quit: Guest225 [16:40] perl, cfengine? [17:10] sh. ;) [17:10] shell... not the best one, but is an option. [17:24] i prefer it. [17:25] :) ok [17:25] sh is definitely better than cfengine ;) [17:26] when? [17:26] always. [17:26] it's possible to fai install another fai server... like replicate them? [17:26] you can install a fai server using fai, yes. [17:27] you can install any server using fai. [17:28] like universal machine of Charles babage [17:28] can you make autonomous system with sh so simple? [17:49] sure..it won't be very efficient [17:49] thank oz_ [17:50] I think FAI is good to install an maybe configure... but for maintenance? [17:51] make changes in a hibrid systems with lot of host without reinstall. [17:52] I know FAI can be used with a running system. but it need something like cfengine for make more [17:54] there is also task_softupdate [17:54] and personally, I don't mind reinstalling too much [17:55] but for change an option in for example, a config file of postfix [17:55] cfengine [17:55] but only need this changes in some servers [17:55] cfengine, yes :=) [17:56] yes... I think too. [17:56] I think FAI and cfengine together [17:56] is best [18:05] i swore by a "never re-install" rule, before i discovered FAI. i still have two machines running that were installed in 2000-2001. [18:06] and even with a very old installation? [18:07] if you have a kernel very old, and a libc and other packages that cause conficts [18:08] it is possible to crash the system on boot? [18:13] i used debian back then, and have kept the machines up-to-date. [18:14] so, they're very well tuned machines. after that many years of using a machine, there are configs deep in that machine i could never reproduce. [18:14] tho; i try. and i stick the results in my fai configdir. :) [18:15] cool [18:17] jury_, are you a network admin or have some job in IT? [18:17] two jobs in IT, actually. (three?) [18:18] waaauu... a very busy person. [18:18] network/system administrator for a banking technology outsourcing company, and developer/project_team_manager for a walmart contracting company. [18:19] ooooohhhh [18:19] and it use debian too? [18:20] so, i develop software, administrate systems, administrate networks, and manage small teams. [18:20] yes, i'm all debian, all the time. actually, all FAI. [18:20] :) [18:20] developer... [18:21] i never did an install of the last stable version of debian. i performed FAI installs the entire time sarge was stable. [18:21] now etch? [18:21] i barely know. i'm still installing FAI machines. [18:21] what do you develop? [18:22] automation and banking software. [18:22] if there is no policies to restrict you to tell me. [18:22] actually, i develop most my big stuff based on open source code. you can go download what i do. [18:22] what language, plataform, ide, do you use? [18:23] the banking stuff is usually "one-off", so i don't bother opensourcing it. it'd be useless outside the company i work for. [18:25] did you need a system junior admin who help you? [18:28] I think you make FAI install machine for your developers, maybe install system with eclipse or other ide configured yet [18:28] with all stuff like style rules for your project. [18:39] woffs (~woffs@osiris.taz.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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