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[12:39] <lazyb0y> stockholm: did you solve that problem? if not, please dsecribe what you are doing exactly (before the log and te error), and mayxbe in a mail, that is easier to track...
[12:40] <Mrfai> or pste to paste.debian.net
[12:40] <lazyb0y> or come down to the canteen to get personal, commercial, enterprise support
[12:40] <lazyb0y> special offer: first 10 minutes are free!!!
[12:41] <lazyb0y> and here we are 5% cheaper than Mrfai's expensive contracts :)
[12:41] <Mrfai> commercial support is currently also available in hacklab 1. 10% discount just todday;-)
[12:42] <stockholm> what error is that now?
[12:42] <lazyb0y> here, you get better support from younger, fresher people! and even mutli-distribution consulting!
[12:42] <stockholm> lazyb0y: i want debian support.
[12:42] <lazyb0y> and a muffin for free(tea excluded)
[12:43] <lazyb0y> stockholm: ok, i let Mrfai do the broing stuff 
[12:43] <lazyb0y> stockholm: the last error you posted here I asked about
[12:43] <Mrfai> do not trust support that are not officially FAI certified :-)
[12:43] <stockholm> that was like two days ago, right?
[12:43] <lazyb0y> hmm, yes...maybe...
[12:44] <stockholm> i solved that and currently try to get to the management console of my test-install machine to find out its mac address
[12:44] <lazyb0y> whatever, we also provide support for newer problems ...
[12:44] <Mrfai> tcpdump -qte port bootpc
[12:44] <Mrfai> this will shou you the MAC addresses
[12:46] <stockholm> yes, i could do that, too
[12:46] <stockholm> can i first limit what interface tries to pxe boot?
[12:47] <Mrfai> this must be done by your BIOS
[12:47] <stockholm> i know
[12:48] <Mrfai> so, If you know, what's the real questions?
[12:48] <stockholm> it was not a question at all. i tell you guys what i am doing 
[12:49] <Mrfai> ok
[12:50] <lazyb0y> but we want questions, and problems! :)
[12:53] <stockholm> ok, so how do i create the nfsroot?
[12:53] <stockholm> i forgot that command again
[12:53] <lazyb0y> Mrfai: how do you want the XENU sample class? patch against original configspace? single files? svn branch?
[12:53] <stockholm> it does not start with fai-
[12:53] <oz_> stockholm: make-fai-nfsroot :)
[12:53] <lazyb0y> make-fai-nfsroot
[12:54] <stockholm> lazyb0y: i want it in beta5!
[12:54] <lazyb0y> stockholm: XENU?
[12:54] <lazyb0y> give me you mail address...
[12:55] <lazyb0y> (i don't know how long Mrfai needs to review it and put it into the trunk)
[12:55] <stockholm> oh, i stll need to send you the corrected NFSROOT config file i guess
[12:56] <stockholm> lazyb0y: send it to operations@spotify.com  :-)
[12:56] Nick change: stockholm -> EarlOfFai
[12:58] <EarlOfFai> come to me for real high level fai support
[12:58] <lazyb0y> for sure, this service is not conatined in the standard support contract
[13:00] Nick change: EarlOfFai -> stockholm
[13:04] <juri_> mrfai: how do i get in on this support racket^Wcontracting gig? :P
[13:04] <lazyb0y> so high on crack that theres not much else to do :)
[13:05] <lazyb0y> juri_: it involves carying big boxes of cach to Mrfai 
[13:05] <lazyb0y> argh... too much crack, also...
[13:05] <lazyb0y> better carry big boxes of cash...
[13:05] <juri_> fine with me. as long as people carry bigger boxes of cash to me. :P
[13:06] <lazyb0y> juri_: that's not part of the contracts in Mrfai fai's business partner programme
[13:06] <juri_> oh. well then. :)
[13:07] <lazyb0y> in my "fai advanced business partner program" you get the promise of getting very big boxes back!
[13:07] <juri_> hmm.. paying big boxes of cash for promises... did i drop into #microsoft? :P
[13:08] <lazyb0y> ah no, it's not just simple promises... it's much more...
[13:08] <lazyb0y> stockholm: let me know if the XENU stuff works for you.
[13:08] <juri_> patent indemification? oooh! oooh! send me a newsletter!
[13:09] <lazyb0y> stockholm: but take care - I did not test it with netinstalls that way, and currently, I did not yet get netinstalls working with the 3.2 beta versions. dirinstall works fine, though, also combined with xen-tools
[13:09] <lazyb0y> juri_: I know what you do with your emails... gr :(
[13:10] <stockholm> lazyb0y: will do
[13:11] <lazyb0y> erm, what's the current newest version of 3.2 beta?
[13:11] <stockholm> beta4
[13:11] <stockholm> i think
[13:11] <stockholm> Mrfai: does not answer, his support is not up to enterprise standards i notice
[13:12] <lazyb0y> stockholm: and, can I have that fixed NFSROOT file, please?
[13:12] <lazyb0y> I said it the whole time... he doesn't even deliver promises!!!
[13:17] <stockholm> lazyb0y: yes...
[13:18] <stockholm> http://paste.debian.net/31046
[13:18] <stockholm> lazyb0y: note the general requirement of unionfs-modules-2.6-486
[13:18] <stockholm> that might be better added to the arch dependent section too
[13:27] Action: lazyb0y is still figuring out the real diffs between the empty lines and comments...
[13:31] <stockholm> hu?
[13:31] <stockholm> i did not comment anything
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[13:44] <stockholm> ok, my college "reworked" my working dhcpd and tftp config
[13:44] Action: stockholm barfs out the window
[13:57] <stockholm> is there a tool for setting up /srv/tftp/fai?
[13:57] <stockholm> that is gone as well
[13:58] <lazyb0y> stockholm:hmm, IIRC it's generated by make-fai-nfsroot
[13:59] <stockholm>  locate make-fai-nfsroot | grep bin
[13:59] <stockholm> maria:~#
[13:59] <stockholm> is that normal?
[14:01] <stockholm> isnt that the command to run? what package should it be in? it is not installed:
[14:01] <stockholm> dpkg -S  make-fai-nfsroot
[14:01] <stockholm> fai-server: /var/run/fai/make-fai-nfsroot
[14:01] <stockholm> fai-doc: /usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf/FAISERVER
[14:01] <stockholm> fai-doc: /usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf
[14:01] <stockholm> fai-server: /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf
[14:03] <lazyb0y> stockholm: hmm, 
[14:03] <lazyb0y> filet:/etc/fai# which make-fai-nfsroot
[14:03] <lazyb0y> /usr/sbin/make-fai-nfsroot
[14:04] <lazyb0y> and:
[14:04] <lazyb0y> filet:/etc/fai# dpkg -S  make-fai-nfsroot
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-server: /usr/share/man/man8/make-fai-nfsroot.8.gz
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-server: /var/run/fai/make-fai-nfsroot
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-doc: /usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf/FAISERVER
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-doc: /usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-server: /usr/sbin/make-fai-nfsroot
[14:04] <lazyb0y> fai-server: /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf
[14:04] <lazyb0y> donno where yours is gone to
[14:10] <stockholm> dpkg looks in the package level
[14:10] <stockholm> not the filesystem level
[14:11] <lazyb0y> I also find it with which and locate...
[14:11] <lazyb0y> your locate db might not be up to date
[14:11] <stockholm> lazyb0y: what i pasted means that it is not in the fai-server package at all
[14:13] <lazyb0y> hmm, wait, I am still at beta3, let me see...
[14:13] <lazyb0y> aprt from that; yes, I realized that. but it was different for me...
[14:13] <stockholm> now i reinstalled the fai-server package and it is threre
[14:14] <stockholm> fai-server: Installed: 3.2~beta4 Candidate: 3.2~beta4
[14:17] <lazyb0y> strange...
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[14:39] <Mrfai> beta4 is the newest version, available since two days IIRC
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[16:02] <stockholm> so how should i invoke fai-chboot with beta4 to work around that error that mrfai mentiond?
[16:02] <stockholm> fai-chboot should be renamed to fai-pxe-config
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[16:12] <stockholm> Mrfai: ah, there he is!
[16:12] <stockholm> 18:02 <stockholm> so how should i invoke fai-chboot with beta4 to work around that error that mrfai mentiond?
[16:12] <stockholm> 18:02 <stockholm> fai-chboot should be renamed to fai-pxe-config
[16:14] <Mrfai> Did I mentioned any error?
[16:14] <stockholm> yes, with pxe booting
[16:14] <Mrfai> maybe this
[16:14] <Mrfai> cd /srv/fai/nfsroot
[16:14] <Mrfai> mkdir live/filesystem.dir
[16:14] <Mrfai> mv * live/filesystem.dir
[16:16] <stockholm>  mkdir live/filesystem.dir
[16:16] <stockholm> mkdir: cannot create directory `live/filesystem.dir': No such file or directory
[16:16] <Mrfai> -p
[16:16] <stockholm> -p?
[16:16] <stockholm> yes
[16:17] <stockholm> mv * live/filesystem.dir
[16:17] <stockholm> mv: cannot move `live' to a subdirectory of itself, `live/filesystem.dir/live'
[16:19] <Mrfai> last error can  be ignored
[16:19] <Mrfai> now add initrd=... into the pxelinux.cfg
[16:19] <stockholm> back when we talked about pxeboot and beta4 you said templates were a workaround. does that ring a bell?
[16:19] <stockholm> ah
[16:20] <Mrfai> yep
[16:20] <Mrfai> add this to the pxelinux.cfg template: initrd=initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486  
[16:20] <stockholm> can you give an example line for pxelinux.cfg .... yes, exacty except amd64
[16:20] <Mrfai> yep
[16:21] <Mrfai> hold on......
[16:21] <stockholm> and... since /etc/tftp/fai is generated by fai-server... i think it should not be removed when removing /upgrading the package
[16:21] <stockholm> i think that happend to me. 
[16:21] <stockholm> that or my college removed it
[16:22] <Mrfai> please file a bug report. I will not scan the irclog later
[16:23] <Mrfai> kernel vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-486
[16:23] <Mrfai> append initrd=initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486  ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.250:/srv/fai/nfsroot FAI_
[16:23] <Mrfai> FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install boot=live
[16:23] <Mrfai> remove the newlines
[16:23] <Mrfai> kernel is a seperate line
[16:23] <Mrfai> append is the second line
[16:24] <Mrfai> that's all
[16:24] <stockholm> hm, i dont have a pxelinux.cnf file at all... where should that go? into /srv/tftpd/fai/pxelinux.cfg/?
[16:25] <stockholm> a debian bug report or does have fai a seperate bug tracker?
[16:25] <Mrfai> yep, name it inst.tmpl for example
[16:25] <Mrfai> then
[16:26] <Mrfai> fai-chboot -vc inst your_hostname
[16:27] <Mrfai> if your_hostname can be reswolved with DNS (or /etc/hosts) then fai-chboot will do the rest
[16:31] <stockholm> is tmpl the file ending it needs to have to be picked up?
[16:32] <stockholm> or could i also call it burp.template?
[16:35] <Mrfai> .template is not supportet (yet), check man fai-chboot for more info
[16:36] <stockholm> yes, got it
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[16:57] <stockholm> tftp not working.
[16:57] <stockholm> tftp timeout.
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[17:12] <Bluemoon_> nabend
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[17:13] <bluemoon> kann man dem fai-client beim booten einen vendor class identifier mitgeben?
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[17:17] <bluemoon> hallo Mrfai 
[17:17] <bluemoon> kann man dem fai-client beim booten einen vendor class identifier mitgeben?
[17:17] <bluemoon> oder was aehnliches
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[17:19] <Mrfai> ja. aber ich weiss nicht genau was ein vendor class sein soll. Ich vermute mal
[17:19] <Mrfai> du willst dmidecode nutzen um einen Vendor zu erkennen und dann eine Klasse definieren.
[17:19] <Mrfai> Da sollte bald ein schoenes Beispile im wiki stehen. Habe heute mit jemandem geredet, der dies implementiert hat.
[17:20] <bluemoon> ne, ich brauche das, um eine ip vom dhcp zu bekommen
[17:20] <bluemoon> um nicht jede mac einzutragen
[17:21] <Mrfai> aha, vendor string im dhcp meinst du.
[17:21] <bluemoon> jepp
[17:21] <bluemoon> kann auch eine andere option sein
[17:21] <bluemoon> irgendwas was mein dhcp verwerten kann 
[17:22] <Mrfai> ich denke das sollte gehen. schau dir mal die dhclient.conf in der nfsroot an
[17:22] <Mrfai> und dann noch dhclient-fai-script an
[17:22] <bluemoon> aber zu der zeit hat er ja noch kein root
[17:22] <Mrfai> doch
[17:22] <bluemoon> ah
[17:23] <Mrfai> und in zukunft haben wir auch eine initrd, da koennen wir noch mehr drin machen
[17:23] <bluemoon> ok, dann guck ich mal da weiter
[17:23] <Mrfai> es gibt 3 dhcp anfragen waehrend FAI bootet;
[17:23] <Mrfai> 1. PXE von der Netzwerkkarte
[17:23] <Mrfai> 2. dhcp vom kernel
[17:23] <Mrfai> 3. dhcp von dhclient-fai-script
[17:24] <bluemoon> genau, und ich brauch es bei der 2.
[17:24] <Mrfai> wir koennen natuerlich nur in die 3 eingreifen
[17:24] <Mrfai> bei der 2. geht es vielleicht in zukunft, wenn wir die initrd haben.
[17:24] <Mrfai> Ist schon im fai 3.2beta4 enthalten
[17:25] <bluemoon> also eine kernel-boot-option dafuer gibts dann wohl nicht
[17:25] <bluemoon> ich hatte was von dhcpClass gefunden
[17:25] <bluemoon> das scheint aber was fedoralastiges zu sein
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[19:32] <stockholm> Mrfai: there?
[19:32] <stockholm> could you come by in the main hacklab and look at my tftp boot (it does not pick up my kernel parameter)
[19:33] <stockholm> and then (since i linked linux to the real kernel vmlinz file) i get an error from init that scripts/live is not there
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[21:03] <juri_> Grah.
[21:03] <juri_> somehow, re-installing the fai package clobbered half my configs. NOT NICE.
[21:04] <stockholm> juri_: which ones?
[21:04] <stockholm> the ones in /srv/tftp and friends?
[21:04] <stockholm> i files a but on that
[21:04] <juri_> config files. /etc/fai/NFSROOT, just ones under /etc/.
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[21:40] <juri_> gah. my fai server is hosed. :/
[21:54] <stockholm> do you try the beta4?
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